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3rd T4GP (13th November)

Held on 13th November 2010
Participants: 62

1st place
Player: Yuuta 「ゆうた」
Deck: Six Samurai 「六武衆」

13 Monster
3x Grandmaster of the Six Samurai 「六武衆の師範」
3x Kagemusha of the Six Samurai 「六武衆の影武者」
3x True Six Samurai - Kizan 「真六武衆-キザン」
3x True Six Samurai - Kageki 「真六武衆-カゲキ」
1x Black Feather - Gale of the Hurricane 「BF-疾風のゲイル」


18 Magic
3x Six Samurai United 「六武衆の結束」
3x Gate of the Six 「六武の門」
1x Reinforcement of the Army 「増援」
3x Shien's Smoke Signal 「紫炎の狼煙」
1x Monster Reborn 「死者蘇生」
3x Book of Moon 「月の書」
1x Dark Hole 「ブラック・ホール」
1x Giant Trunade 「ハリケーン」
2x Mystical Space Typhoon 「サイクロン」


10 Trap
2x Magatama of Musakami 「六尺瓊勾玉」
2x Bottomless Trap Hole 「奈落の落とし穴」
1x Mirror Force 「聖なるバリア-ミラーフォース-」
1x Solemn Judgment 「神の宣告」
2x Dust Tornado 「砂塵の大竜巻」
1x Torrential Tribute 「激流葬」
1x Trap Dustshoot 「ダスト・シュート」


Side
2x D.D. Crow 「D.D.クロウ」
2x Kinetic Soldier 「サイファー・スカウター」
2x Snowman-Eater 「スノーマンイーター」
1x Tragoedia 「トラゴエディア」
1x Herald of the Six Samurai 「六武衆の露払い」

1x Nobleman of Crossout 「抹殺の使徒」
1x Cunning of The Six Samurai 「六武衆の理」

2x Royal Decree 「王宮のお触れ」
1x Compulsory Evacuation Device 「強制脱出装置」
1x Dust Tornado 「砂塵の大竜巻」
1x Starlight Road 「スターライト・ロード」


Extra
1x Ally of Justice Catastor 「A・O・J カタストル」
1x Ally of Justice Decisive Arms 「A・O・J ディサイシブ・アームズ」
1x Black Feather - Armored Wing 「BF-アーマード・ウィング」
1x Gigantech Fighter 「ギガンテック・ファイター」
1x Goyo Guardian 「ゴヨウ・ガーディアン」
1x Scrap Dragon 「スクラップ・ドラゴン」
1x Stardust Dragon 「スターダスト・ドラゴン」
1x Natural Palkion 「ナチュル・パルキオン」
1x Natural Landols 「ナチュル・ランドオルス」
1x Black Rose Dragon 「ブラック・ローズ・ドラゴン」
1x Mist Wurm 「ミスト・ウォーム」
2x True Six Samurai - Shien 「真六武衆-シエン」
1x Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Boundary 「氷結界の龍 トリシューラ」
1x Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Boundary 「氷結界の龍 ブリューナク」



2nd place
Player: Stella 「ステラ」
Deck: Six Samurai 「六武衆」

3rd place
Player: 「DoLL-MasTer」
Deck: Six Samurai 「六武衆」

13 Monster
3x Grandmaster of the Six Samurai 「六武衆の師範」
3x Kagemusha of the Six Samurai 「六武衆の影武者」
3x True Six Samurai - Kizan 「真六武衆-キザン」
3x True Six Samurai - Kageki 「真六武衆-カゲキ」
1x Shien's Yoriko 「紫炎の寄子」


18 Magic
3x Six Samurai United 「六武衆の結束」
3x Gate of the Six 「六武の門」
1x Reinforcement of the Army 「増援」
3x Shien's Smoke Signal 「紫炎の狼煙」
1x Monster Reborn 「死者蘇生」
3x Book of Moon 「月の書」
1x Dark Hole 「ブラック・ホール」
1x Giant Trunade 「ハリケーン」
2x Mystical Space Typhoon 「サイクロン」


9 Trap
1x Solemn Judgment 「神の宣告」
3x Dust Tornado 「砂塵の大竜巻」
1x Torrential Tribute 「激流葬」
1x Trap Dustshoot 「ダスト・シュート」
3x Truth Reinforce 「トゥルース・リインフォース」



4th place
Player: Hakuhou Maoni 「白鳳魔鬼」
Deck: 「」
sixsamh8er (guest) - 2010/11/14 18:34

and it begins bring on the Ban Hammer

OMGulator - 2010/11/14 18:56

I KNEW IT!!

Fizzy (guest) - 2010/11/14 19:01

Wow

Six Sams Tier 1 now D:

Jing (guest) - 2010/11/14 19:42

Who honestly didn't see this coming?

Konami just really wanted OCG players to stop using cards from 10 sets back. The only way to do it was to make a deck with similar mechanics to old BF and shove it down competitive players throats.

Gotta make OCG players buy new sets after all. TCG also gets to suffer for it but they're used to suffering.

aaa (guest) - 2010/11/16 17:10

yeah... like triple trishula ... triple gorz ... now... triple gateway/united. XD
Krebonz (guest) - 2010/11/14 20:47

true six sam ?!

Wtf ! Why are they so good ? :bb

ZXtheD (guest) - 2010/11/15 01:11

Really?

Really? You don't know? WHERE HAVE YOU BEEEN? Look up Storm of Ragnarok, along with Gateway of the Six on Wiki, then you'll understand why.
motorhead (guest) - 2010/11/14 22:00

ok... that was it... no more yugioh for me until next format...

Shin (guest) - 2010/11/14 22:55

Sigh

Does Konami want us NOT to play any other deck?

Mr.GoodKat (guest) - 2010/11/15 00:30

=v.v=

Predictable, that is why I got my 3 gates when they barely hit the shelves, of course Konami needs to keep on juicing players, there is no telling when this madness will end.

ORiGaMe (guest) - 2010/11/15 01:29

Rise the New Ban Deck

HeHe.. March have new target.... Six Samurai Deck... Keep yours Kinect Soldier im you side deck.

:)
Mr.GoodKat (guest) - 2010/11/15 03:31

Yes kinetic, but especially rai-oh, puppet plant and if gateway goes to 1 just as blackwhirlwind or royal goes to 2 and more. At this point its all about speed while having enough consistency(which is what samurais need more, since they depend one on another and handles combos beat that)With all the hype and boost they get, sabers are still top for now.

kazuya (guest) - 2010/11/15 06:27

Yappari... Then The Six Sam Age Has Begin (Again). Cant wait till gate of six being banned, though XD

Handsome Rob (guest) - 2010/11/15 06:42

I would have preferred to see them using the three infinite loops with Shinai,Mizuho, and Gateway; or are they just trying to postpone the inevitable? I don't like seeing bad builds of broken decks winning tournaments...

guest (guest) - 2010/11/15 15:06

six sam

It's not a bad build at all, it's just a very aggressive and fast-paced OTK. Samurai always had the option of either going with a control or OTK-oriented setup. Since the OTK version wasn't consistent enough back then, so almost everyone came to know samurai as a control deck. Now they're finally consistent enough to go OTK. So this is actually a pretty good (OTK)deck and not a bad build at all. Maybe you should look up all the effects again..
Cosmos (guest) - 2010/11/15 09:59

Don't understand

Well, as long as I understood the 1st deck, i don't see the huge-wining conditions as I expected..

Well, I realize how Kizan and GMoSS works too well using gateway, but I think it can only summon kagemusha once in a turn, meaning they can only Synchro Summon once per turn... I don't think that was a huge blowup even with one TSS-Shien (the synhcro one) + kizan + GMoSS face up on the field... I don't see a way to grab gate of the six that fast...

An3 (guest) - 2010/11/15 10:21

Please, think it!! This is only a Six Samurais Tournament, only play samuaris decks. Kinetic for side deck tells that

guest (guest) - 2010/11/15 15:01

come on

A tournament just for Six Samurai decks, is that what you're saying? Come on, how dense can you get. They all had Kinetic in their sides because any competitive player checks the spoilers of upcoming booster sets every now and then. They all knew what was coming and how good Six Sams would become, it's only natural that everyone sided Kinetics, think about that!
Handsome Rob (guest) - 2010/11/15 16:45

I just don't undestand why the first place deck isn't running the Shinai/Mizuho infinite counter loop combo. I mean the infinite counter loop just turns into an infinite destruction loop, into an infinite attack six samurai for game... Why are they not using it? I'd really like to see the decklists for the other six sam decks.

Rizzal (guest) - 2010/11/15 18:20

you're an idiot....

there is no loop because

1. Mizuho works only once per turn
2. Shinai can't search itself...


idk why Konami would even MAKE cards like this just to end up cutting it down later...
six sam player (guest) - 2010/11/15 19:05

he's not an idiot

@Rizzal
There is a loop. You need 2 gateways and either Shinai or Mizuho in hand first.
Play 2 gateways normal summon one of the two above, grab one from deck and then grab the other Mizuho to special summon. Wipe field by removing one of the Mizuho then use gateways effect to grab monster from grave then tribute the Mizuho that just used its effect. Rinse and repeat.
six sam player (guest) - 2010/11/15 19:06

I meant tribute not remove.

^^^
Six Sam d00d (guest) - 2010/11/16 04:56

No Room

There's no room for shinai's and mizuho's (although i may run 1) in my deck, there are too many other cards I need to run instead
Six Sam d00d (guest) - 2010/11/16 05:01

Need 2 Gateways

Oh, not to mention you need to rely on having both gateways
Rizzal (guest) - 2010/11/16 18:27

i know the loop

and the loop is going to get Gateway hit. well, regardless, Gateways getting hit anyways because Konami pumped Six Samurai up, and they're gonna get their money off the Gateways and chop that shit later...just doesn't make sense
Gambo (guest) - 2010/11/15 18:23

lol Kinetic Soldier

smh, is that the new choice side card against Six Samurai? TROLLOLOOLOLO

Fizzy (guest) - 2010/11/15 19:47

Next Banlist

Six sams won't be hit that badly next format. Konami need to make money from this. They'll raise the price for gateway and not hit it too badly until a couple of formats.

Take Blackwings (Blackfeather) for example. How long did it take for whirlwind to get limited? I think the same will be the case with Gateway.

Konami will lose money if the hit any six sam stuff right away in the next banlist. Expect Six Sams to be a top deck for the next while.

erushio (guest) - 2010/11/15 22:48

Substitoad Says HELLO!
Rizzal (guest) - 2010/11/16 18:30

yea well....

they basically swooped Infernity the very next format, which lasted like what?? a few months? and Konami should've made thousands of thousands off of Infernity right off the bat, so i don't think this'll be different
delev (guest) - 2010/11/15 22:11

At first I thought that first place deck was pretty bad until I saw the Extra. No need for fancy loops - just get a Synchro off and control the game from there. I like it.

Shinai is such an awkward card by itself.

Porch (guest) - 2010/11/15 22:32

WOW

good thing i suit yugioh

Yugifan10 (guest) - 2010/11/16 05:47

What's Magatama of Musakami?

babapcck (guest) - 2010/11/16 07:20

magatama of musakami is the counter trap that when u have a faceup six sam, u can negate 1 of any effect that destory a card, ex, JD, DAD, MST, xx-saber shit that pop 3,, gyzarous.....

they will hit gateway because thats so many sets ago,
and this deck will start to rape the formate from now till march
but most likely nothing from the new set
B-rad (guest) - 2010/11/16 09:01

There's already a loop

You guys are all talking about the new True Six Sams when there's already a loop with Hand of the Six Samurai and Grandmaster of the Six Samurai and two Gateways...though Hand only destroyes monster cards... And it's so easy to pull off that I believe Gateway will get hit on the Limited List, maybe not to one, but definately two.

and seeing how both Hand and Mizuho are level 3...it can easily be searched out by Shien's Smoke Signal, making the loop even more deadly

DarkDragonphoenix (guest) - 2010/11/16 18:01

some stuff

1. there was a way easier loop before shinai& mizuho
2. @gambo: Kinetic was played when Six Sam was good some years ago - seeing you didn't know this may tell that you aren't that old player.
3. @erushio:
of course substitoad was hit immediately after Frog-FTK becoming good; the reason is that it was a pure and consistent FTK, which Konami hates(just like they hate OTK's & brokenness), BUT Substitoad was available in both TCG and OCG for years.

Now reading someone told gateway is old, it's from SOVR. That's like... novembre last year. No one ran SS. In Japan, they got that card since septembre. Now it was same with charge, but TCG could run LL too.

But since konami wants to make money off the new set, they are 100% NOT banning gateway, because a single gateway isn't really dangerous, smartly said, and as we won't get Storm of Ragnarok until like January, it'll surive until septembre '11.
So much about that, PLUS Shien+Grandmaster+1-3 Kizans isn't a real OTK, especially not in times of tons of Dandy tokens and since only shien is 2500 a single stardust+book could get a problem, tho they could TRY to sinc for shien, but kagemusha gets book before...

wow...what alotta word xD

dixen - 2010/11/17 01:45

pretty much yeah...
baba (guest) - 2010/11/17 07:45

ya bro
gateway to 1 is the most likely future
but Sams stay at tier 1 even with 1 gw tho
Guest (guest) - 2010/11/17 06:14

Why no Great Shogun Shien?

baba (guest) - 2010/11/17 07:42

its a little slow but,
it does create a scary field control with TSS shien lol
Guest (guest) - 2010/11/18 11:57

Lol, Shogun Shien + Synchro Shien completely locks down your spell and traps. Only hope of winning is only through beatdown.
PumpkinKng (guest) - 2010/11/18 17:12

Not really, summon blizzard go for brio or goyo depending, also debris dandy works. There are plenty of ways. Just need to make sure you keep backrow to back the two up and it can be really bad situation.
Guest (guest) - 2010/11/19 02:20

Isn't Goyo beatdown? As in win through a higher attack? And debris Dandy for? If you are talking about Quickdraw Dandy, then it can only block 2 attacks, and most of the time there will be more than 3 monsters on the field.
++++++ (guest) - 2010/11/19 13:17

if you have both great shogun shien and true six samurai shien on the field, and you negate one of your opponent's speels/traps with true six samurai shien's effect, then your opponent is allowed to play 1 more spell/trap card since it was negated.
u5h3ra1i (guest) - 2010/11/20 07:57

@ Guest above (who commented on Pumpkin)

Goyo is beatdown but think about how the samurai set up would be if he controls both shien's on the field at the same time. With monster counts dropping lower and lower its possible he cut a large chunk of the opposing deck to nothing and THOUGH you can blizzard into a Goyo and try to beatdown, its not effective because with that type of control, they either have a Solidarity, a Burden, a A. Forces, a Book of Moon, or even a D Prison. Sure you managed to sync a Goyo but it'll go to shit in no time. Also you can try the Brio method which is more viable but again book and bottomless can be the enemy. Last thing I wanted to point out was Debris+ Dandy doesn't mean Quickdraw Dandy, it means what he said, A Debris and a Dandy and the purpose of that is to sync for a Black Rose to bomb the field, after which u get 2 tokens. That seems like the best idea to me but if they got Magatama, or either of the Solemns (warning/judgement), then BRD goes to shit as well. Im pointing this out, just to maximize on how damn broken the new Sams are. In proxy play testing, anytime I drop both Shien Bosses, its damn near game, might as well tell your opponent to scoop.
Boo (guest) - 2010/12/01 05:03

You can't use Solemn Warning as an argument that SS are good.

Everyone else has em.

a BRD will poop all over six sams, regardless of their Infernity Barrier of the Six
Mr. EMang (guest) - 2010/11/23 01:36

Um
Six Sams won't be that broken nor will they get hit.
Not broken: Although Tier 1/0 it still is GW/ United dependent. Despite having negation for everything from summons (warning and judgment) to S/T (Shien and Megatame) it needs to setup. If it doesn't get momentum first it simply loses. A first turn T-King w/Decree and/or backrow kills the otk variant's momentum.

They won't get hit in March cuz they still have to make their money off of the TCG. If they hit SS in anyway they prevent successful sales in the TCG as there will be little equity in buying the new pack. They will hit it come AFTER September.
This is the same story with LS and Infernities. They milked the exclusives in the TCG for LS then waited till after the OCG got the exclusives b4 hitting the whole deck. And Infernities as well as they released an exclusive for it in the TCG as well as Sabers (Making Sabers Tier 1 once the format became defined) then followed to hit kill Infernities after milking them in both TCG & OCG. And now that Sabers exclusives are in the OCG they're juicing their sales for Saber products in the ocg. *were

Ra1d (guest) - 2010/11/29 09:24

Next Ban List :

Gateway to 1.
Shien's Smoke Signal to 1.
Grandmaster might be semi-limited.

Even if they do that,samurais will still rock as long as they have Kageki.

So pretty much only by banning the above cards will samurais stop.

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