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Forbidden and Limited List 「禁止・制限カードリスト」

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Forbidden and Limited List 「禁止・制限カードリスト」
02/01/2014

Forbidden Cards 「禁止カード」:

Return from a Different Dimension 「異次元からの帰還」

Limited Cards 「制限カード」:

Elemental Hero Bubbleman 「E・HERO バブルマン」
Atlantean Dragoons 「海皇の竜騎隊」
Cyber-Stein 「デビル・フランケン」

Evilswarm Ophion 「ヴェルズ・オピオン」
Sacred Sword of the Seven Stars 「七星の宝刀」
Gold Sarcophagus「封印の黄金櫃」


Semi-Limited Cards 「準制限カード」:

Blaster, Dragon Ruler of Infernos 「焔征竜-ブラスター」
Redox, Dragon Ruler of Boulders 「巌征竜-レドックス」
Tidal, Dragon Ruler of Waterfalls 「瀑征竜-タイダル」
Tempest, Dragon Ruler of Storms 「嵐征竜-テンペスト」
Honest 「オネスト」
Plaguespreader Zombie 「ゾンビキャリア」
Lonefire Blossom 「ローンファイア・ブロッサム」


No longer limited 「準制限」:

Gladiator Beast Bestiari 「剣闘獣ベストロウリィ」
The Agent of Mystery – Earth 「神秘の代行者 アース」
Debris Dragon 「デブリ・ドラゴン」
Neo Spacian Grand Mole「N・グラン・モール」
Gorz, the Emissary of Darkness 「冥府の使者ゴーズ」
Thunder King Rai-Oh 「ライオウ」
TomTom (guest) - 2014/01/15 21:54

LEL

EAA - 2014/01/15 22:12

Ban Konami's derriere

Konami always making idiotic things. Instead of limiting new and overpowered decks, they limit / kill old decks.

Munkyo (guest) - 2014/01/15 22:19

LMFAO

just too broken banlist, i understand that they have more answers to cyber-stein but is a plus for the new cyber dragon structure, honest at 2 and bestiari at 3 is just fucked up..

the rulers at 2 is just stupid...
Slinky (guest) - 2014/01/15 22:56

Rulers

Honestly, the rulers at 2 is pretty legit. Its what a lot of people really wanted in the TCG as well. The problem with the ocg however, is that they still have that draw card for every discarded dragon. Cyber-Stein to 1 is actually pretty legit. paying 5000 is a pretty huge cost, and chances are, unless you open with it, you won't be able to pull it off.

More on the rulers though. Putting them at 2 is pretty balanced imo. 1 search is fine, and with Sacred Sword at 1, they can't +3 like nothing at will.
Nah (guest) - 2014/01/16 22:21

Super Rejuvenation

It got banned Slinky
willNEET (guest) - 2014/01/16 23:33

Check ocg ban list. Super rejuv at 1
dragonrage00 (guest) - 2014/01/18 04:38

Rulers

Rulers at 2 is NOT legit. Ppl still play them in the tcg, with all of them at 1 and ravine banned, and its still a solid deck. With all the rulers at 2, and ravine untouched, they are going to take over once again. Specially since they murdered mermails and evilswarms, which were, apparently, the main alternatives in ocg land. Im glad tcg has a different list, cuz the ocg is still under the dragon rule
Well... (guest) - 2014/01/20 01:13

If the people playing that "blue-eyes turbo deck" are still calling it "dragon rulers" (Ha! What a joke), then that's them, but those aren't dragon rulers. It's blue-eyes turbo...
Was Finder (guest) - 2014/01/15 23:04

my opionion

This banlist is kind of stupid. I'm glad they unbanned Rai-Ho and Mole but Ophion should also stay at 3. and Y R the E-Dragons at 2 they should be at 1. Bottomline I kind of hate this banlist...

Harpie Girl's Liver (guest) - 2014/03/16 14:58

EMERGENCY DRAGONS

The Emergency Dragons are at 2 because two is a perfect number for emergencies.
GX-Kai (guest) - 2014/01/16 02:10

Honest

Honest @2 is obviously a good way to support the upcoming Cyber Dragon and Artefact decks :) so happy about it

KarakuriSoldierMdl216 - 2014/01/16 03:30

Constellar and Bujin with 2 honest is scary
Airknight (guest) - 2014/01/16 03:29

why not have the same list for tcg..

This what makes ocg format a lot more fun than tcg. I would love to have thunder king at 3, but It would kill Bujin and other. E drags at 2 instead of 1 would have been nice. G.B. with bestiari at 3 awesome. Can we at least get stratos back.

anon (guest) - 2014/01/16 04:55

I wonder which ban list Konami will use for the Worlds Championship 2014 be using this summer?

GX-Kai (guest) - 2014/01/16 05:08

OCG

OCG, of course. And IMO there would be so many decks that possibly could win the World Champion 2014 title since it's like 8 months away from now... imagine new and stronger decks that will emerge from Primal Origin and onwards!
Vartio (guest) - 2014/01/16 23:17

@anon

Probably a special list specifically for the worlds. They use these lists (the non-worlds) to sell decks, and the worlds list to throw them off for a competitve as hell format.
Lentra - 2014/01/17 17:19

The World Championship tournament always uses its own unique list. It is neither OCG nor TCG.
Frenzyhero (guest) - 2014/01/17 19:13

Lentra makes most sense as they have to take into account exclusives, though you can be sure it's going to be more akin to whatever the OCG list will have, as Konami of America, like always, will most likely have very little say.

Typed this 3 times, Captcha cant even fucking read itself.
Jared777 (guest) - 2014/01/16 13:27

geargia?

geargia with stein is stupid
play gear in their end phase, make gigant x add stein summon stein gg

WolfgangDS (guest) - 2014/01/17 18:09

Worst. List. Ever.

Seriously, have they learned nothing? There are only three good choices on here: Return, Sword, and Dragoons. That's it. Everything else is annoying and overpowered, or senseless and devoid of reason.

Also... heh. Captcha word is "anime". Not kidding.

Frenzyhero (guest) - 2014/01/17 19:15

If you think Earth, Plague, or Raiou didn't deserve to have their numbers moved, then who are you to call another person senseless?
WolfgangDS (guest) - 2014/01/18 01:20

I have unpleasant memories of what all of those cards are capable of. They deserved to be restricted. At the same time, the Dragon Rulers need to be at 1 each, and Stratos should just be banned.

I LIKE my Special Summons. But most tend to focus on a single boss monster as my goal. That, I believe, is an ideal format. None of this "3-4 Extra Deck monsters in one turn" nonsense.
Frenzyhero (guest) - 2014/01/17 19:33

I will enjoy this list, though there are a few quirks I'm not too keen on.

Dragon Rulers remaining at 2, AND jumping Debris up. In the TCG, Debris Dragon isn't that useful in Dragon Ruler decks, namely because we lack Exciton and ARK, and only have a single copy. Being able to use Debris Dragon for a 1-card XYZ into a field nuke is extremely good, especially since you can go for Emeral to get a +1, or ARK to remove Ophion, Stardust, or Dracossack. It gives a ton of options, and bringing Lonefire to 2 just makes it even better, giving easier access to Black Rose (and other synchros), which is essentially the same as Exciton, but has a few quirks.

Gorz to 3 and Honest at 2, the Gorz definitely helps support Lightsworn/Twilight decks, as does the double Honest, as most only ran 2 anyway. Honest, I really wish would just be banned. Playing around it is incredibly difficult when paired with backrow, and it has no need for its 1st effect either. But, I never minded one copy of the card TOO much, so I'll test around with 2, but I don't believe it to be a smart move. It's still an OTK enabler that makes your monster invincible in battle.

Raiou, deserved to be at 3, though we didn't need him there. We could have dealt with 2, but they went and gave us all 3 back. I'm fine with it. It's a great card, but in no way overpowered.

GrandMole to 3? Sure whatever, I guess. Personally I still like the card as side decked tech in pretty much every dragon deck, but the only decks that would utilize all 3 aren't a real threat anyway.

Cyber Stein.... well, let's just see. Veiler is still an amazing card, after all, most decks run it this format, and even more will be running it when this card is unleashed.

Dragoons, good. I would have rather Linde+Sphere be limited, and call it a day, that's what lets them grind so well, but I guess. I never minded Dragoons too much, outside of it being able to search Glacia.

Bubbleman wasn't an issue, but I would gladly lose 2 copies of him to play Stratos.

Lonefire, Plague, Bestiari, Earth: Nobody cares. Lonefire, neato. That's fun. Not too competitive outside of Shrine Plants, but still fun.

Sacred Sword, Sarco, Return, and Dragons to 2: Leaving Sarco at 1 with the Dragons still able to search themselves, and Heavy in game, not sure if best idea, but let's see. Sword is still an immediate +1, so again, its problem is with Rulers at 2. Personally, if Rulers were at 1, I feel Sarco and Sword could go to 3, but...it doesn't matter too much, I guess. Dragons to 2, no true big deal, the deck is still playable and good, still competitive, just allows more freedom, such as which is better, Mythic, Hieratic, Shrine Plant, Disaster, more choice in the selection of variant.

Ophion to 1: He isn't the problem, it's the fucking field wide Lance. I'd rather deal with 3 Ophion a duel then a single one of those Pandemics.

Have I covered everything? No? Not Return? Good, because Return isn't even worth discussing. It's won me nearly 90% of my duels with pure Rulers, just because I always open with it.

KarakuriSoldierMdl216 - 2014/01/20 07:45

Ophion to 1 gives other decks a chance to come back, like quickdraw. When was the last time someone over there used it competetively? Not since before October 2011 because of it not being able to get rid of ophion without synchro summoning, I like this list more than that crap the TCG has, they touched NOTHING in evilswarms, so with lavals i have to deal with 3 ophion and a ton of back-row cuz there is no heavy.
Guest (guest) - 2014/01/26 14:22

Are you kidding

Ocg gets all the cards the tcg would want cyber stein and trishula how bout honest at 2 thunder king stratos this is bullshit I think it is time to quit

Patrick (guest) - 2014/02/10 20:52

Bad Format is BAD

LOL OCG format is still broke yet again, compared to TCG format this format is still unbalanced with dragon rulers at 2,at least the tier 2 and lower decks got boosted

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