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Free Space Estate Kashima Official Konami Tournament (18th October 2009)

Held on 18th October 2009

1st place
Player: 「かぁゆ」
Deck: Lightlord 「ライトロード」

31 Monster
2x Judgement Dragoon 「裁きの龍」
1x Dark Armed Dragon 「ダーク・アームド・ドラゴン」
1x Envoy of Hades Gorz 「冥府の使者 ゴーズ」
2x Chaos Sorcerer 「カオス・ソーサラー」
2x Lightlord Angel Cherubim 「ライトロード・エンジェル ケルビム」
3x Lightlord Beast Wolf 「ライトロード・ビースト ウォルフ」
2x Lightlord Paladin Jean 「ライトロード・パラディン ジェイン」
2x Lightlord Magician Leila 「ライトロード・マジシャン ライラ」
2x Lightlord Hunter Raikou 「ライトロード・ハンター ライコウ」
3x Lightlord Summoner Luminous 「ライトロード・サモナー ルミナス」
1x Lightlord Warrior Garos 「ライトロード・ウォリアー ガロス」
1x Lightlord Monk Eileen 「ライトロード・モンク エイリン」
1x Phantom of Chaos 「ファントム・オブ・カオス」
1x Zombie Carrier 「ゾンビキャリア」
1x Black Feather - Gale of the Hurricane 「BF-疾風のゲイル」
3x Honest 「オネスト」
3x Necro Gardna 「ネクロ・ガードナー」


11 Magic
3x Solar Exchange 「ソーラー・エクスチェンジ」
3x Reinforcements of the Light 「光の援軍」
1x Brain Control 「洗脳-ブレインコントロール」
1x Heavy Storm 「大嵐」
1x Mystical Space Typhoon 「サイクロン」
1x Monster Reincarnation 「死者転生」
1x Light of Redemption 「救援光」


3 Trap
2x Bottomless Trap Hole 「奈落の落とし穴」
1x Beckoning Light 「光の召集」

Copied from shriek.twoday.net
Side
2x Wicked Emperor Gaius 「邪帝ガイウス」
2x Raiou 「ライオウ」
2x Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer 「霊滅術師 カイクウ」

2x Twister 「ツイスター」

2x Mind Crush 「マインドクラッシュ」
2x Royal Oppression 「王宮の弾圧」
3x Royal Decree 「王宮のお触れ」


Extra
1x Magical Android 「マジカル・アンドロイド」
1x Ally of Justice Catastor 「A・O・J カタストル」
1x Goyo Guardian 「ゴヨウ・ガーディアン」
1x Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Boundary 「氷結界の龍 ブリューナク」
1x Black Feather - Arms Wing 「BF-アームズ・ウィング」
1x Magic Tempester 「マジックテンペスター」
1x Black Rose Dragon 「ブラック・ローズ・ドラゴン」
1x Black Feather - Armored Wing 「BF-アーマード・ウィング」
1x Mentalsphere Daemon 「メンタルスフィア・デーモン」
1x Stardust Dragon 「スターダスト・ドラゴン」
1x Red Daemon's Dragon 「レッド・デーモンズ・ドラゴン」
1x Gigantech Fighter 「ギガンテック・ファイター」
1x Dark End Dragon 「ダークエンド・ドラゴン」
1x Mist Wurm 「ミスト・ウォーム」
1x Ally of Justice Decisive Arms 「A・O・J ディサイシブ・アームズ」
DarkDragonphoenix (guest) - 2009/10/24 22:49

Once again-.-

title says ething, Lightlord sucks

dingo (guest) - 2009/10/25 01:14

hoping they'll limit charge and solar in march.
Anonymous (guest) - 2009/10/25 02:27

Once again,

that sour grape strikes again.
DarkDragonphoenix (guest) - 2009/10/25 13:31

Banlist March 2010

I think the following will happen:
JD ->Limited
Charge ->Limited
Recharge ->Semi-Limited
Lumina ->Semi Limited
Burial ->Limited(because Konami always banhammers to heavy, I think Burial is goin' to one)
Shutendoji ->Semi Limited
Tragoedia ->Limited
Nohrellas/PoC one of them gets hitten to 1
Solemn ->Semi Limited
Cold Wave ->Semi Limited
Mind ->Semi Limited

appleJAX (guest) - 2009/10/25 20:27

RE: Banlist March 2010

your predictions are extremely bad... JD is not over powered at 2, charge at 2 (thats pushing it), recharge ( your dumb for saying it will even get touched) lumina no need to put it at 2 when 90% of players use only 2 now. shutendoji doesnt get used so it wont get touched, trago's not doing anything in the meta to get touched (its just a preference tech monster instead of/ with gorz). and yes give synchro cat and glads back solemn, cold wave, and mind control, so their meta speeds back up and they run the national tourneys again ( its dumb to limit a decks power then give it back the next format)... and if burial gets touched it will only be at 2 (once again pushing it)...
y would u think that ll / ls cards would get touched? they arent winning any significant tourneys, unless they get finals and or win nationals / worlds / sjc they will not touch them
Fyga - 2009/10/25 22:29

I have to add the predictions don't seem to affect the overall meta, it just sounds like some sore loser list. Norleras/PoC? Really? Cold Wave & MC after we just got over Cats? Yeah, appleJaX was pretty spot-on in dismantling your list.

It's nice LS are finally getting somewhere, but give it time before pushing them entirely on the Limited List. What makes their winning deck different from previous ones is consistency, wait to see if the same LS players that are topping can keep topping. If so, we have a problem; if not, then you can easily rule those who win were lucksacking.
(A meta where the same 4 guys always tops w/ DAD decks should be measured differently than one where 4 LS decks always tops but never the same guys; becomes evidence it's luck, & it's too early to say now)
DarkDragonphoenix (guest) - 2009/10/29 18:45

@Sebi feat. Toast xD c. from SchuelerVZ

Don't you believe me? Glaubst du's net, Sebastian Cornet??
To correct my prediction:
I took my reference from TCG, not OCG, so I think I have to re-do a prediction:
So this will take it, because many Lightlord Decks are tier 1 decks, I think Konami will cut them down:
JD ->Limited
Charge ->Semi-Limited
Recharge ->Semi-Limited
Burial ->Limited(because Konami always overreacts, I think Burial is going to one)
Or at least Semi-Limited, because it's way too abused...
Tragoedia ->Semi Limited(Just a little bit to broken in Tradget, TragoGenex, DivaDAD)
Solemn ->Semi Limited(Overreacting from last Banlist)
Cold Wave ->Semi Limited(Overreacting from last Banlist)
Mind ->Semi Limited(Overreacting from last Banlist)
Rakatosu (guest) - 2009/10/26 02:14

tsk tsk

i agree with you as his predictions are not that good, but lightsworns will get their due next banlist, as to wat will get limited and such can only be guestements since the new packs come out shortly.

DarkDragonphoenix (guest) - 2009/10/26 17:38

-.-

Again not thought why they reprint everything rare from LS?
That they have a reason to banhammer it next banlist...or at least to make some cards cheaper, I'm so unsorry for all those rich payers who bought their charges for hundreds of dollars and now they're nothing worth...
Now cheap-players or people with not that rich parents/which don't already ha^ve a job finally also can play LL
Xehanort - 2009/10/26 12:06

I really like the idea of including Light of Redemption. RFG JD with Phantom and nuke the field. Activate Redemption to bring JD back to hand. Such a nice combo :)

FM (guest) - 2009/10/26 12:25

I totally agree. It's a nice option especially since everyother deck is running Bottomless and Siding D-Fissures
DarkDragonphoenix (guest) - 2009/10/26 17:35

OCG is soo cool

Oh dear, OCG is MUCH MORE creative than TCG, OCG invent things, try old/new unplayed cards, and see: They even WIN with it!
And about Shutendoji again: Apple and the others are just blind like 95% of all YGO players, dirty netdeckers to be very hard, they think "Card X is maybe good, but no one plays it, so it must be bad".
I think you're TCG players, aren't you? So be creative like me, and try to think now "OCG", or "Konami", because they now rule, and they overact, so see it that the banlists are overacted like the bans in March '09
Noobshater (guest) - 2009/10/26 17:30

Why hacking on Dark Dragon Phoenix?

Shutendoji over Gorz??? Dumb isn't Phoenix, it's you apple...I agree that nobody plays it, but just think over the instant-synchro ability of it:
Bring back Mezuki/PSZ to the grave, remove/top deck a card to either use Mezukis or PSZ's effect to revive PSZ, or bring back even a Zombie Master/Goblin Zombie, in most of all cases justPSZ, and then Sync...isn't that pretty good, HÄ?!
Then to Burial: It's waaay to abused, and because Konami allways banhammers to hard, it's going to 1 like Mezuki, and then in Sept going to 2, so I think...Because it's an OTK-Bringer, too(and Konami hates OTK decks, just think: DaDTurbo, TDCTurbo, Cat Synchro, Blackwing, Tele-DaD: All of them got hit because of OTK's)
Then about the Lightsworns: Lumina I agree, in OCG people don't run her 3 times, but in TCG about everybody does-.-
Recharge: What about Allure o D? Wouldn't it be just fair to Semi-Limit it like Allure and DDraw(ok, DDraw got entlimited)?
If DaD is at one(and it's much harder to get him out than JD, because JD doesn't need a SPECIFIC number, it needs just AT LEAST 4, not EXACTLY), so I think it's just fair.
Charge: RotA is at one(KinteleDaD'S Monster Searcher-.-), so LL, which is the "antonyme" of Kintele-DaD, so Charge MUST go to 1, it's just way too powerfull because everydeck that runs a small amount of Lightsworns can abuse it, for example in a Zombie Deck with Ryko/Lyla removal, 2 Charges are very nice...

marshmallows - 2009/10/26 18:29

shutendoji

I don't think its weak its very very good can make undead very fast
but if people aren't using more than one limiting it wouldn't have any effect
but if it were being abused more it would be limited/semi and I think people should use it more cause it helps undead carrier alot
appleJAX (guest) - 2009/10/27 05:03

RE: Noobshater

I find the first sentence of your comment amusing. where did anyone say playing shutendoji over gorz? if you are refrencing my post from earlier you will find that i said tragoedia is a tech choice over gorz (its a preference of the player). burial is not seriously over-abused, yes it can give you an 'otk' but who cares it doesnt promise you a win. also i never said shutendoji was bad, i said it was not used so there was no need to limit a card that doesnt even see play. I personally like the card and want to playtest with it in the states when we get it (SNEAK PEEK this weekend).

now to your recharge reasoning. allure and ddraw have both been limited and / or semi-limited due to the fact that they can be used in a multitude of decks, whereas solar recharge limits its use to lightsworn/lord cards only.

to jd / dad now. once again dad can be 'splashed into a multitude of decks' anything that uses enough dark monsters could utilize it. jd, like solar recharge is limited to ls / ll monsters and cannot be 'splashed' into any deck like dad therefore there is no reason to restrict jd to 1.

to charge. it is a very good card, i never said it wasnt. but until ls /ll show that they can win major tournaments then its not getting put to 1. until i look at this site and see ls / ll take top 3 on majority of tourneys here and starts winning sjc's / contends in finals over and over, i dont see it going anything under 2. i can see them putting it at 2 just to be safe, but there really is no need right now.

lumina now. hardley anyone in tcg uses 3 now. if u play in any major tournaments and see what people play with then u will see that 90% of worth while players only use 2 now, unless they have a reason to run 1 /3.


marshmallows understands the concept of resticting cards right unlike u Noobshater
MasterSephiroth - 2009/10/27 10:50

OCG and TCG

I think another point of limiting cards is the difference between OCG and TCG. The most cards were limited cause they were strongly used in the OCG. Until now, nobody in TCG cared about "One for One", as an example, so it wouldn't be limited in our game. But cause of the fact, that OCG-players strongly abused this card, it had to be limited. The same is with "Lonefire Blossom" where you can't see a reason in the TCG why it should be limited, even with it's strong effect. No plant deck did ever win a major tournament. But the National Tournament of Japan did a Skill Drain Plant Deck win. Most of the people thought about the "Crush Card Virus", that it was banned, as the main reason, cause now everyone, with the Turbo Pack, could get a Crush Card Virus. But that wasn't the main reason. Never before were DARK monsters that abused with Cat Synchro, Zombie Synchro, Blackwing and even Lightsworn. And never before were there that many possible tributes for CCV as in this format we had before. The OCG had got their CCV as Common card of years, without any banning, but this was with the reason, that nobody played that much DARK before.

About Lightsworns: Lightsworns aren't very good splashable. The most times, you see a deck list full with Lightsworns with a little other cards together. As long as no Fiend Roar Deitysworn or Jinzosworn wins a major tournament, I don't see any reason, why any of these Lightsworns should be limited. Another thing is about luck. A good deck is only then good, if that person always, or just 4 times in a row, wins the tournament. Cat Synchro and Blackwing was hit by the ban list, cause always the same persons did win the tournament. With Lightsworns you really have to have very much luck, to win a tournament with the same deck even twice. This in facto, is cause of the big amount of Monsters a Lightsworn Deck counts. If you have a bad luck day, you only draw monsters and can't win anything.

To come to an end with my text, I have to say, that these ban list always is made for the OCG and not TCG. So if nobody plays 3 Luminas in TCG, that doesn't care anyone, but if everyone in OCG is playing 3, then it could be semi-limited. But we have to wait, to wait until these major tournaments. And then we will see, which deck has to be limited, and which not.

(By the way, yes Shutendoji is good, but for our Format it's a little to slow. I don't think that will ever be limited or banned. Same to Burial.)
petqwe (guest) - 2009/10/27 16:02

yes Noobshater BfaDD is WAY to powerful. before the Re-semilimitation of Malicious, Undead Synchro was ruling with 3 Mezukis. It is BfaDD and DAD which ensures the OTK, and DAD at 1 seems ok currently. BfaDD obviously needs to be done.
About Lumina: why not running 3 if Cerebral is out?
About Charge: Either rota to 3 or Charge to 1


Tragoedia is good, but itself only generate advantage with an opposing monster having the same level, and this reduces its atk. No limitation needed at all


Re MasterSephiroth: It's Burial that makes OTK of Gravewing possible.
Noobshater (guest) - 2009/10/28 16:24

My bad

Ok, I'm sorry about apple, red wrong or you changed th coment, don't take it personally...XP
Well then, Shutendoji, it's slow? Is an Instant Synchro without loosing any card advantage SLOW? For example Rescue Cat does(beside the fact that it thins the deck) in some ways the same thing, so if U draw a Shutendoji after a Norleras Nuke, or in a situation were a 1-1-card-swap-battle(don't know how to say it in English, I'm German)
is, you may get back the upperhand with shutendoji, I see it will come played...or atleast II will try it...
Now to the DARK/Lightlord comparing: That may be true: But Lightlord actually is very powerfull so it's very unfair to keep them without any scarrs...I agree about Recharge, but Charge is splashable in any deck that runs only 3-4 Lightlords...
Last but not least to Burial from a DD:
N O T A B U S E D ?!?!?!? Are you kidding??
People, when that damned card isn't abused, then I don't know what abused means O.o
Infact that it's a game turning, handy, usefull tech-card, also very good in recycling Necro Gardnas, BS "C"s, or making a Gold Sarko useless, it quite unabused, isn't it???
Of course it WILL get at least Semi-Limited ><*

@petgue and Dark Dragonphoenix: You're the ones who got it, the others MUST be Lightlord players, because they so heavily focus NOT to ban anything from Lightlord...

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