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Banned and Restriction List 「禁止・制限カードリスト」

Listed are only the CHANGES

09/01/2012

Forbidden Cards 「禁止カード」:

Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Boundary 「氷結界の龍 ブリューナク」
Future Fusion 「未来融合-フューチャー・フュージョン」

Restriction Cards 「制限カード」:

Inzecter Damsel 「甲虫装機 ダンセル」
Inzecter Hornet 「甲虫装機 ホーネット」
Chaos Sorcerer 「カオス・ソーサラー」
Spore 「スポーア」
Tsukuyomi 「月読命」
Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon 「レッドアイズ・ダークネスメタルドラゴン」

Eviritua Gustkrake 「イビリチュア・ガストクラーケ」
Mainspring Carrier Zenmighty 「発条空母ゼンマイティ」
Ultimate Offering 「血の代償」

Semi-Restriction Cards 「準制限カード」:

Rescue Rabbit 「レスキューラビット」
Agent of Mystery, Earth 「神秘の代行者 アース」
Debris Dragon 「デブリ・ドラゴン」
Black Feather - Kalut the Moonshadow 「BF-月影のカルート」
Death Guide Leaving the Underworld Bound for the Living World「魔界発現世行きデスガイド」

E - Emergency Call 「E-エマージェンシーコール」
Pot of Duality 「強欲で謙虚な壺」
Hieratic Seal of Gathering 「召集の聖刻印」
A Hero Lives 「ヒーローアライブ」
Reasoning 「名推理」

Mirror Force 「聖なるバリア-ミラーフォース-」

No longer restricted 「準制限」:

Necro Gardna 「ネクロ・ガードナー」
Marshmallon 「マシュマロン」

Emergency Teleport 「緊急テレポート」
Destiny Draw 「デステニー・ドロー」
Level Limit - Area B 「レベル制限B地区」
Swords of Revealing Light 「光の護封剣」

Magic Cylinder 「魔法の筒」
The Best in the World (guest) - 2012/08/17 09:55

:D

I personally love this ban list. :D

giga137 (guest) - 2012/08/17 09:56

A BIG smiley for the meta hit especially inzektors.
A small sad face for T.G. Striker not becoming semi-limited.

Greg (guest) - 2012/08/20 08:01

yea i agree. woulda made my deck alot better! :/
Mila (guest) - 2012/08/17 09:56

...

Ohh, my little chaos dragon D:

Asdfghjkl1234567890 (guest) - 2012/08/17 12:13

lol

chaos dragon was just for 4 months meta :O
Gouki (guest) - 2012/08/17 23:06

QUIT YOUR WHINING!

You brought this on yourselves and in addition you crippled every other dragon deck in existence so good job (sarcasm,) give yourselves a pat on the back.

....But seriously, Chaos Dragons never deserved to exist and they should stay dead for what they did to dragons as a whole.
dragon master of the tcg - 2012/08/17 23:32

gouki im liking you more and more, i presume your talking about them using lightswarn?
Angel (guest) - 2012/08/18 08:23

ha

I think YOU should probably quit your whining, you dont get to decide which decks should exist or not and Dragon were absolute shit before chaos came in, so nothing changed for them.

Anyway, try new builds people, if they dont work then you can quit your dragons, not before.
Gouki (guest) - 2012/08/23 02:33

Skill, thought, and ingenuity

@dragon master of the tcg: Normally I have no problem with DragonSworn but I just dislikethe idea of Chaos Dragons being thrown in.

@Angel: The only reason a person would think Dragons were garbage is because said person wouldn't know how to build a proper dragon deck for their life. Before Chaos Dragons came to be, building and using dragon decks required skill and thought which is a rarity. In addition, Other Dragon decks never got to shine because they were outnumbered and overshadowed by all the Wind-Ups, LSS, DW, BW, Chaos Dragons and Hieratics. With that being said, your last sentence actually has slight truth to it, no matter what happens, Dragons never die, they adapt.... in some cases more so than other decks.
alexander (guest) - 2012/08/17 10:09

MEAN

one of the best banlists in a while, nuff said.

chio (guest) - 2012/08/17 10:39

Because the last one was horrible.
Spike (guest) - 2012/08/19 00:32

this ban list absolutly sucks certain cards on this ban list shouldn't of even been hit yet as they haven't been out long enough fact
Squiddy (guest) - 2012/08/17 10:14

BUGS STILL @ LARGE

good news is coton candy @ 3

Squiddy (guest) - 2012/08/17 10:19

on a side noate

DEATH GUIDE LEAVEING THE UNDARWORLD (tcg) NOW HEADEING OT THE OVERWORLD (ocg) bichs
Nigga (guest) - 2012/08/17 16:22

Olol

Yo where are you, I don't see you in dn no more! :(
Tsuna - 2012/08/19 02:30

DNF banned Squiddy

Good riddance too. Now they just have to IP ban him to stop the multiaccounting.
gogeta408 (guest) - 2012/08/17 10:16

man, I was expecting some, but not all of this. But few, least heros werent hit badly

PringerX (guest) - 2012/08/17 10:20

Ban List

Amazing! This Is Going To Be A Great Format
Looking Forward To Running 3 ET And 3 D Draw
Thanks Konami!

MonKy (guest) - 2012/08/17 10:29

best list ever

great format, now tier1 is to heros and darkworlds

anonymous (guest) - 2012/08/18 04:00

I doubt it

Heroes is significantly weaker due to consistency issues as they would never be able to completely replace those cards and darkworlds worst enemy is itself so if it starts getting popular it will also get weaker
DarkDragonphoenix (guest) - 2012/08/18 23:02

@anonymous

you rack rogic, my friend.

seriousely, if something gets eaker and stronger at the same time, what does that equal? right, it stays at same rate. BUT if you look at it from the statistic side, it means that if it gets popular, more people will be running it at the same event thus it will be more likely for it to win the tournament...
anonymous (guest) - 2012/08/19 11:16

@DarkDragonphoenix

i don't think you understand the strengths and weaknesses of each of those two decks honestly. Considering that some of the best cards that heroes uses are super poly and effect negating cards (effect veiler, skill drain, fiendish chain) are double edged swords or ineffective when playing other hero decks. Dark worlds greatest assets as an archetype is speed and setup using cards like dealings, dragged down, gate, and card destruction but in a mirror match you would lose a lot of that speed because you don't want your opponent to discard their darkworld monsters to avoid their better secondary effects. I wouldn't bet my money on any of those decks for the coming meta. I would bet a new meta would rise because honestly that's what makes a good ban list. Reseting the game so Konami can allow a new power creep deck to take place.
anonymous (guest) - 2012/08/17 10:47

dis' is good


Setosama (guest) - 2012/08/17 11:06

Only problems with the list:

1) Limiting Chaos Sorcerer and Red-Eyes is stupid when they already banned Future Fusion.

2) Why no hit on Dragged Down into the Grave?

3) WHY THE F*** DIDN'T WE HAVE A LIST LIKE THIS IN MARCH?!

Tsuna - 2012/08/17 11:13

Derp much?

1 - Justice of Prophecy makes Sorc searchable, so it had to go straight up. REDMD was a terrible hit. Atum and LPD are far worse than REDMD will ever be.

2 - Dark World havent been doing anything in either format. No need to hit a deck that isnt winning.

3 - Because Konami is retarded and only create good ban lists out of luck alone.
Setosama (guest) - 2012/08/17 12:02

Dark World doing nothing?

1) That explains it. LPD is the problem card but it's probably never gonna get hit for the same reason Grapha and Hyperion aren't getting hit (but then they did hit Earth so IDK...)

2) They won the 100th YCS over rabbits and inzektors, I'd say that's doing something. Only reason they aren't doing anything in Japan is because of that damn Evilswarm Xyz that prevents LV5 and higher Special Summoning. That and inzektors are just broken but the new limits are helping with that.

3) and I'm sticking with the assumption of why I quit competitive play which is that konami just wanted to push rabbits, inzektors, and wind ups to sell more packs. Hitting the decks they SHOULD have hit before might bring older players back.
Gouki (guest) - 2012/08/17 16:34

REDMD

Limiting REDMD that hard was uncalled for, either it should have been semi'd, hit indirectly through Wyvern or just left alone period. REDMD was what brought the majority of the dragon type together and sped it up a bit in order to keep up with the rest of the game.

LPD didn't get hit because it was a structure deck boss monster and those are never hit although, to be honest, they should have broken that rule and hit LPD. As for Hyperion, he is what brought Agents back so they would never hit him, it made sense to compromise the flow of the deck by hit Earth.
Tsuna - 2012/08/17 21:25

@ Setosama

That YCS isnt taken seriously by anyone because of the make up of the top 8. Half the decks that got any recognition never made a repeat showing in Day 2 again. Dark World also have next to no chance when a side deck gets involved, especially with both OCG and TCG having ample reason to keep SIMs and Macros on hand for the next format. Plus with TCG now looking forward to integrating the Verz Exceeds into the deck to expand their control options, no more being strictly attached to Laggia and Dollka with Bahamut, Ophion, and Thanatos coming over (predicting 1, 2, 1 for the extra deck), it will be harder in the future for Dark World to net any wins, especially with the Grapha spam.dek

If Dark World wants to make a splash again, it better change for utility instead of spamming the same thing over and over again.
Setosama (guest) - 2012/08/18 04:17

@Tsuna

Yeah, I run HEROes, and Ophion almost makes me wanna quit. Such a disgusting card.

Lots of decks are gonna have to go to utility builds once that card hits. At least they hit Rabbit though. FINALLY. When I saw Tour Guide at 2 I leaped for joy!
Tsuna - 2012/08/18 04:38

RE: Rabbit

Rabbit wasnt really hit that hard. If anything, the deck had some room freed up to open up some shenanigans for the Verz variant and even without that in the TCG, there are options like Tour Bus that will come in and take its place. It got a slap on the wrist like HEROs did and they will more than likely hold their own for the new few months.
joey (guest) - 2012/08/17 11:16

Wow.

this is interesting to say the least. i honestly didnt think this was gonna be the real list. I do agree with most of this list in terms of things that they hit(except gustkrake which seems a little odd). the unlimits are pretty nice, but the semi limits are a little baffling. I feel like everything that was done there either needed to bit hit harder, or should have stayed at one. Well, at least they effectively hit most of the decks that needed it, so I can call this a pretty good list overall

curious1122 - 2012/08/17 12:01

Oh man..

I can the sound of inzector users being punched in their stomaches all across the land. XD

Joey (guest) - 2012/08/17 12:16

Well, most of them kinda brought in on themselves. I know there are some exceptions, but with all due respect I know a lot of people just ran the deck because they saw it was doing well in tournaments, and just wanted to win games without any effort on there part(not sure if this applies to you or not). hopefully people will learn to just play the game to have fun, and use their own ideas, and not play as if their lives depended on it. but if they continue to do so, then they really have no one to blame but themselves once their O.P. decks get hit.
J4B0i - 2012/08/17 12:15

No hit to HEROs is what bothers me. Dino Rabbit I've never faced on DN but I'm sure they didn't die. Inzektor; gone, Chaos Dragon; gone, Gisheratic; gone, Wind-Up; gone. BW; potential, Agents; potential, some odd deck using Emergency Tele+Destiny Draw; potential.


joey (guest) - 2012/08/17 12:24

Well, a hero lives and emergency call were done to hit heroes, but I don't think it will do to much to them(it bothers me to btw). I wish rabbit would have been hit to 1 instead, wind ups can probably be a pretty good deck, just not top tier(they killed the loop and that's what counts). I honestly had never even heard of the gishki hieratic deck(lol) so that was a suprise to me. I think this will be an interesting format. The only thing is by judging by the semi and unlimits, they seem to be hell bent on keeping heavy storm legal, which I had high hopes that they would ban it again.
superawesomecooldude (guest) - 2012/08/18 00:16

wtf dude chaos dragon is still alive.
anonymous (guest) - 2012/08/18 04:18

Both heroes and rabbit weren't hit hard but they lost consistency that they would find hard to replace. They probably didnt get hit as hard because they still can be used to push sales of heroic champion xyz and evilswarm xyz still to come out. I think windups are highly underrated with this ban list because all they lost was the loop and they could still swarm like crazy and have access to the best xyz in rank 3
JC (guest) - 2012/08/17 13:13

Nice to know we have a balanced list. N

dragon master of the tcg - 2012/08/17 13:15

most of this list is good except the future fusion and red eyes (which should have been put at 2) hit at the same time seriously cripples any dragon deck not just chaos, when hieratics and pulsar are the ones needing to be hit cus there the ones that can swarm a field in one turn. other than that not to bad of a list still they should have banned heavy storm and dark hole and hit MST after some of the last tournies in japan had seen them run in threes

Gouki (guest) - 2012/08/17 16:37

AGREED

My sentiments exactly
anonymous (guest) - 2012/08/18 04:26

whatever is good for the goose is good for the gander

future fusion and red eyes has been a staple in every dragon variant and sadly there were 2 dragon decks worth hitting. They were good hits though as future fusion has been abused in so many deck variants including alive hero other than dragon in which you draw this card and you win. REDMD was broken due to gustaf max more than pulsar the fact that it got limited and not semi-limited or banned.
Gouki (guest) - 2012/08/23 01:04

Incorrect

There are only a handful of methods to bring out Gustaph Max

Second, REDMD breathed life into dragons as a whole and as such, should have been semi'd

Finally, REDMD effect was tame compared to other swarming cards. It was cards like Atum and Pulsar that found ways to abuse the crap out REDMD's effect. Those were the cards that should have been hit if Konami wanted to deal with Hieratics and Chaos Dragons
Was Neos (guest) - 2012/08/17 13:29

I think...

I kind of hate the new banlist; I was hoping they ban "Mirror Force", "Heavy Storm", "Rescue Rabbit", etc. I hope they change it in the future. it's a good thing "Bronic, Dragon of the Ice Boundary" and "Future Fusion" is banned.

Tysugan (guest) - 2012/08/17 17:44

lolwut

Someone is clearly butthurt
ShiroRyu - 2012/08/17 18:39

I have a feeling the list will be changed.
Sometime around March.
Hope that's soon enough for you.
Keith (guest) - 2012/08/17 14:24

Dat List

Nice list.
Tier 1 decks getting nerfed while also slowing the game pace down.
Less chance to get otked.
Oh yeah those that dont know the evirtua gustkrake hieratic combo, it is like windup loop except you got no grave.

This Guy (guest) - 2012/08/17 14:55

LMAO

LMAO at people thinking Chaos dragons are dead...

They're still gonna be tier one...

If you think Chaos Dragons are not going to be tier one next format, you have some research and experimenting to do.

AnonXI - 2012/08/17 16:07

Are you Insane?

Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon is at 1, Future Fusion is ban, and a key card that contributed to the searching power and banishing of Eclipse Wyvern is at 1 as well.
Chaos Dragons are useless, even in a Ravine Build. This only slightly boosts up their consistency, but makes them a gamble to even run at all. Without Future Fusion, Chaos Dragons were knocked down to a probable Tier 2.
dragon master of the tcg - 2012/08/17 16:48

this guy is right, do you know the options still open to dragons played right it could easily be tier one you just need to know the right cards to add and as for future fusion it helped dragon decks but didnt make them as the odds of pulling it first turn are small and yet they still managed to win, the red eyes been hits bad but is easily recyled with book of moon or divine d. apocolypse
Yoko318 (guest) - 2012/08/17 18:31

First off...

Learn punctuation. It gave me a headache deciphering your post.

Second, REDMD may be able to get its effect off twice with BoM or something, but limiting it really slows the deck down dramatically. and you only get to use that BoM once. Other decks are going to see their time in the sun now, especially if they Bottomless your precious REDMD or negate its summon.
dragon master of the tcg - 2012/08/17 18:52

first having a go at someone's punctuation is childish there was no point, as for 'Dramitically' slowing it your wrong yes it hurts it but its so easy to recylce it, in chaos builds bottomless does nothing so that was a bad example and negating it still means it can be wyvern'd or divine dragon'd. yes we'll see a decrease in its play but it will still seen in the higher level tournies after the smarter player can see a few ways of fixing the future fusion problem
anonymous (guest) - 2012/08/18 04:31

Chaos dragons isn't dead but it has been put in check losing an otk play and losing consistency towards its most resilient combo of pulsar and REDMD. I would probably change it more towards a Chaos dragonsworn variant much like Alexander Reed when he first debuted the deck.
This Guy (guest) - 2012/08/17 14:57

ALSO

Props to Zenmaighty being the first xyz monster on the ban list in the history of yugioh!

el rosa (guest) - 2012/08/19 01:29

LOL

Right! Didn't notice that xD
Drewko (guest) - 2012/08/17 16:41

Chaos Dragon

Chaos Dragon stil can be strong T1-1,5. Less mindless and OP but powerfull.
But srsly, this banlist is pretty awesome, because we have so much playable decks.
I'm sad only because of BLS and MAYBE Monster Reborn.

Rex - 2012/08/17 16:42

Rex

Not bad ban list but have somthing that i don't like...
They ban Future fusion... But don't ban Heavy storm or Black fucking solider...

But lol wegot 3 magic cylinder and 2 mirror...

Tsuna - 2012/08/18 08:58

Must be bad

Never seen good players want Heavy Storm banned. Card is essential for any format to maintain some sort of decency.
Joey (guest) - 2012/08/19 08:21

I honestly didn't think that so many people felt the same why I did about heavy storm. I really wish it would get banned again, but it's looking less and less likely, as they seem to be doing whatever it takes to keep it legal( 2 mirror force, 2 torrential, 3 call, 3 swords, etc.)
Tsuna - 2012/08/19 20:52

How does it feel to be bad Joey?

I'm asking seriously because there was nothing good about Heavy Storm being banned. That entire year was hated by nearly everyone that played. The only people that ever thought it was good to set like mad were bad at the game to begin with, and they are the same people that dont realize what good the card does in preventing people from doing just that and bringing the game down to who has the better defense.

Anyone else wanting to see Heavy Storm banned can consider themselves worse than the random scrub at locals. No one has the absolute right to claim the right to set everything and not be punished for it.
Gouki (guest) - 2012/08/23 00:54

Balance!

There must always be a balance, even with MST at three and Night Beam your only hitting single targets. No one should be able to put 4 cards into the backrow without fear of losing that protection.

The only way Heavy will be baned is if Trunade comes back.....which won't happen for years
Joey (guest) - 2012/12/02 11:36

The only problem I have with heavy storm is that it often has no downside for the user, and spells and traps are almost impossible to recover,especially when player A wipes out player B's backrow of 3, and then sets 3 themselves, which is the common scenario for me(apearently this is a more skilled play then setting 3 in the first place?). If heavy had an equal effect on both players it'd be fine, but it doesnt. Besides, you know whats even harder to negate(assuming that matters), shuts down backrow, is unlimited, and best of all effects both players? Royal decree. It negates all traps and is possible to recover from by destroying it(which if a player sets 5 traps like everyone's afraid of, they won't be able to get rid of it easily), so it should be more than a fair compromise. They could also easily limit more traps to compensate for it being banned, just like they semi and unlimited many cards to make up for it being legal. These are all the main reasons why I feel that heavy storm should get banned. I rest my case. If there is any flaws in my reasoning I would like to hear them.
RandomStuff (guest) - 2012/08/17 16:48

Few things that i dislike from this list:
Duality being hit.. one of the best cards design and it gets semi-limited.. sigh
Not seeing Grapha or dark-world-cards-that-are-broken-in-that-deck such as Card D. in the Banlist.
The fact is.. that im keen on with this list.

AYT (guest) - 2012/08/17 21:00

OK

1. Duality is stupid. its one of those cards that i don't care got hit but I'm also not stupid enough to not know why the card got hit. It reached staple status. It made every deck that you decide to put it in faster and consistent more than it was before the card was added. And since most of us use three if we could but only use 2 we should be lucky to have two. They could have just as easily put it to one.

2 DW have done basically nothing this meta. People want to point out it won a YCS so. That was the only DW deck in the entire top 32. The deck is not broken what do you not understand. It can be sided against incredibly easy and a bunch of games it will kill itself because of bad hands. Stop being but hurt goodness
BWPro (guest) - 2012/08/18 02:33

Dark Worlds

Jeez, there's so many people shooting them down. The hand control that Dark Worlds can throw together, especially in a Virus-oriented build, is just ridiculous. Knowing what your opponent has in their hand takes away one of the factors influencing your decisions, thus making the game "yours to lose", so to speak. This is why I hate playing against DW; I play control decks and I can't gain field control by plussing when my opponent knows not to walk into it.

Also, @AYT Duality is one of the most balanced cards ever made, and it really helped a lot of decks stay competitive that otherwise would have been run into the ground. As it isn't gone yet, I still think we're going to have a varied field of decks, but it doesn't help those decks.
anonymous (guest) - 2012/08/18 04:39

I was sad to see duality but it simply means that it did hit staple status but I would rather be happy seeing it semi-limited rather than just being a limited card. It really takes away a lot of the card's potential at 1 considering it's a very balanced card.

As for dark world it did top YCS and everyone and their grandmother copied the deck but couldn't top next tournament because of 2 reasons. First people were more prepared for it and second with more people playing it, the deck got weaker dealing with the mirror match. People forget that dark world monsters have second effects that happen when an opponent makes them discard it.
Joey (guest) - 2012/10/02 08:39

To all those trashing me about heavy storm:

You say I have no skill for wanting heavy storm gone. But at least it takes more than 1 trap to supress the opponent, and it's not like the opponent can't use traps to fight back themselves. But for some reason, you all think that using 1 card to leave your opponent defensless(good luck getting those cards back), and then setting your own backrow takes more skill than using 1 card at a time to deal with them? and lets assume that backrow is really that bad for the game: why not use regular storm( from galactic overlord)? surely a card that requires you to give up your own evil backrow to get rid of your opponents is even more healthy for the game and if you disagree, that will only prove the points I made earlier.
JYMME (guest) - 2012/08/17 17:11

AAAAAAAWWWWWWWWW YEAH!

NOW .... HERO RULEZ...... BITCHS @_@

xBroken (guest) - 2012/08/17 17:35

Dark Worlds???

Why not hit dark worlds?? At least snoww the main search engine of the deck! All searchers gotta get hit like stratos, smoke signal, e-call and heiratic gathering.

Yoko318 (guest) - 2012/08/17 18:34

Why?

They didn't hit Dark Worlds because they haven't been having much of a showing since Inzektors and Wind-ups became popular. They might make a bit of a comeback now, but since people know how they work, and how to counter them, I doubt they'll be enough of a threat to hit them very hard at all.
ShiroRyu - 2012/08/17 18:46

Wrong.

They didn't hit Dark Worlds because Grapha is part of Konami's article-writing team, and threatened to quit if his army was threatened by the banlist. And considering he's one of the best article writers they have, they've been given no choice but to let Dark World be.
Random (guest) - 2012/08/17 20:03

Because

Macro/D-fissure/Shadow-mirror/Sided Sillva or goldd... if everyone played DW the mirror would be awful and the deck is already inconsistent. What you should worry about is gadgets/karakuri/geargia/heros/destiny Hero/and Decks that will find a way to abuse 2 reasoning and 1 monster gate Ex: Six Sams.
BWPro (guest) - 2012/08/18 02:35

@ShiroRyu

I lol'd.
Stardust (guest) - 2012/08/18 06:06

@ShiroRyu

best reply ever XD
Cygnus (guest) - 2012/08/17 18:22

Black Feathers

At least with 2 kaluts.... hope they can climb back into the metagame....
Btw, is prophecy a fun deck ?

Yoko318 (guest) - 2012/08/17 18:35

YES!

I love Prophecys

Now I just have to figure out the best way to build them. :P
Arvine (guest) - 2012/08/18 11:55

Blackwing ?

Kalut to 2..... But say good bye to Brionac.
Black Whirlwind got more target, but yet blizzard + bw lv 4 can't be an instant brionac anymore
acetherevolver (guest) - 2012/08/17 18:55

Most Good Banlist i see all formats

i say this banlist is actually more balanced although darkness should stay cause tcg is getting the rank 10 xyz and there are ways to stop it but it doesnt really matter meaning for mermails which i say will be a tier deck soon the same thing goes for prophecy depending on the deck bulid madolche alantean depending on more support people can still run hireatics and gishiki but in a different deck form and im happy cause now i can play my psychic decks to new heights

Max (guest) - 2012/08/17 19:02

stupid chaos dragons

thank you stupid chaos dragons for ruining my regular dragon build by limiting my redmed to 1 and banning my future fusion -_- and brio is also banned great...oh joy

dragon master of the tcg - 2012/08/17 19:09

agreed chaos dragons ruined other dragon players decks and this list should teach players not to run three's of everything because they can, i never ran REDMD at more than 2 and my deck did well, although brionac needed to be hit
Tsuna - 2012/08/17 21:28

REDMD

No one was using 3 REDMD in Chaos Dragons. Most players were using 2 to begin with, which is why the limit was prompted.

Doesnt change that the call was bad and that LPD and Atum should have been hit to deal with their respective decks.
Gouki (guest) - 2012/08/23 00:48

Finally!

I've found people other than myself who understand the plight of dragons.

But that aside, if Konami wanted to hit those stupid Chaos Dragons and leave other dragon decks alone at the same time then they should have put Lightpulsar to 1-2 and/or limit Eclipse Wyvern.
Spicer (guest) - 2012/08/17 19:03

Yes!

Dark Hero N39 (guest) - 2012/08/17 19:05

Why the list is good for this game

This list give us a chance to make a free deck with all cards we like.
Decks like inzektors and Dino rabit dont give us the fun of make us personal deck and have difficult duels i am agree with this list but the future fusion is a very good they musnt banned it
(I use HEROs and Dark World XD)

Threatcoon117 (guest) - 2012/08/20 10:12

I would be also worried about sams only seeing brio getting hit. this list makes sams a bigger problem then before just due to those tier 1 decks getting hit badly. Sadly i would say with this list I still see these as the top decks. Sams, Heroes, Sabers(and I am being serious), BW, DW, and a with TCG getting NobleKnight Gwaywn I could see a Light warriors rearing thier ulgy head imo.
Random (guest) - 2012/08/17 19:55

REDMD

Gustav max cannon was coming to tcg . . . they hit REDMD because its was too easy to summon. So instead of hearing b****ing for 6 months they hit REDMD to 1 making trag to REDMD the only other way to summon Gustav.

Max (guest) - 2012/08/17 20:16

...umm no >.>

umm no... galaxy queens light summon redmed summon random dragon activate galaxy queens light ur point is moot
Random (guest) - 2012/08/17 23:36

. . . u got me . . . jk! Bad spellcard is bad . . . That minus :D
Random (guest) - 2012/08/19 08:43

or, you miracle synchro fusion twice into 2 ultimate axon kickers
Yourmom (guest) - 2012/08/20 15:14

Gusphaph Max

You can still make it with 2 Zeal gigas... Also in some wierd decks, like mausolem of the emporer, Earthbound immortal + Malefic... I know no one plays that (I have), but seriously, it'll see SOME play.
Barney the Dinosaur (guest) - 2012/08/17 20:12

Yu-Gi-Oh! Banned List

The family in the dell,
The family in the dell,
Hi-ho, the derry-o
The family in the dell.

The father in the dell,
The father in the dell,
Hi-ho, the derry-o
The father in the dell.

The father picks the mother,
The father picks the mother,
Hi-ho, the derry-o
The father picks the mother.

The mother picks her son,
The mother picks her son,
Hi-ho, the derry-o
The mother picks her son.

The son picks his sister,
The son picks his sister,
Hi-ho, the derry-o
The son picks his sister.

The sister picks her grandma,
The sister picks her grandma,
Hi-ho, the derry-o
The sister picks her grandma.

The grandma picks Barney,
The grandma picks Barney,
Hi-ho, the derry-o
The grandma picks Barney.

Oh, Barney stands alone.
Oh, Barney stands alone,
Hi-ho, the derry-o
Oh, Barney stands alone!

O.o (guest) - 2012/08/18 02:39

Excuse me...

Dafuq was that?
Joco (guest) - 2012/08/17 20:17

List is good.

Inzektorz: They were murdered drastically tho they deserved it. -dead-
Windups: Still playable. No stupid loop/OTK. -tier 1.5-
Chaos Dragons: All hits were good. The deck remained meta -tier 1.5-
Heroes: Instead the searchers stratos should be banned, but oh well its ok. -tier 1-
Offering Gadgets: With offering limited they are dead asswell. -dead-
Tele-DAD variants: Got some boost. -tier 2-
Wabbit: Still powerfull. -tier 1-
Dark Worlds: Absolutely no hit on them, tho they are the easiest deck to side aganist. -tier 1-
Blackwings: +1 Kalut is nice. -tier 1.5-
Agents: they are better without bugs -tier 1.5-
Karakuri Variants: same as agents -tier 1.5-
Stupid Stall/Burn Decks: They will be played more frequently. -tier 1.5-

So the list is really good, many decks are playable, but unfortunately the biggest threat is still here: Wabbit.

Manx (guest) - 2012/08/17 21:03

Gadgets dead hahahahahhahahhahahahhahahahhahahhahahahahhaha some people are just idiots
Jeese Anderson (guest) - 2012/08/17 21:44

Missing key decks

Six Samurai is a good deck too. I actually think it's tier 1 now.
There's also Verz and Laval but I'm guessing you are refering to the TCG now.
Setosama (guest) - 2012/08/18 04:21

Inzektors? Dead?

No, they're NOT dead. They're just not gonna be able to spam summon the field like they used to. They still have loads of life in them and ways to fight around this list. People will just have to play them differently.
anonymous (guest) - 2012/08/18 04:59

You shouldn't be so closed minded

You are only thinking of decks that were directly affects by the ban list. I would strongly consider the decks that were not viable due to the last meta or 2 (since it was almost the same meta) but have a lot of potential to make come backs especially with new xyz supports. Like how you think limiting ultimate offering has "killed" gadgets and yet we haven't even gotten gear gigant x or tin gold fish in the tcg yet.
Arvine (guest) - 2012/08/18 12:00

+1 kalut = nice ?

IMO +1 kalut for the price of brionac is just too much bro
you got to think out of the box....
Nysonin (guest) - 2012/08/25 20:29

Inzektors

I made a build only using one hornet and one dragonfly, that is still just as powerful. I'd say Inzektors are 1.5, but Rabbit now down to 2, requires a bit more skill, which is great because all Rabbit users have is money. I'd say they are borderline meta in a perfect, 2 rabbit deck.
AYT (guest) - 2012/08/17 20:52

Really Really, Yall don't know why REDMD was hit?

I'm mean come on you really don't know. Atum just feed the beast thats all the problem was two metal made Gustav max which made the otk with hieratic. Thats why it got hit. The fact that it helped chaos dragons didn't matter. It was the main fact that you could otk with two metal. putting it to two would have done nothing.

And as fas as why should it be hit because FF is gone. FF is gone because of Alive heroes as well. I played with the deck some and you open with future fusion you can basically push for game when ever you want to. Sheesh get some common sense guys.

Max (guest) - 2012/08/17 21:20

i understand the reason but the fact is i dont own or play the decks or the way your talking bout, i have hieratics but i play to make heliopolis and if i wanted gustav i could just use galaxy queens light, i main a regular dragon deck not chaos, not hieratic the problem is redmd down to 1 hurts that deck along with FF being banned
Mikoshi (guest) - 2012/08/17 21:48

Glow-up Bulb

I was really hoping glow up bulb to get a restriction card. But a balanced banlist is even better!

Mudkipz (guest) - 2012/08/17 23:42

Pass me that good good

O.o really?
rangeless (guest) - 2012/08/17 23:17

reasons y some got hit

Brio - atlantean or continuous spell card looping
Ff - essentially foolish burial on crack. Gives too much utility for heroes, dragons, and the upcoming photon
Zenmighty - hunter did not get hit bzus u can continually use emeral and avarice to reuse 2-3 zenmighty and stall out with rabbit to continually gain field presence. It breaks the mechanic of playing 3 of a card
Red eyes - pulsar didn't get hit bcuz this the problem card. If your opponent decides to veiler your atum or other red eyes play, u can simply summon red eyes and do an equally destructive play. Bad card design and pulsar needs to ram to get red eyes to waste bp. Totally balanced.
Ps gustaph. Max is a pain in hieratics. Guys, don't blame atum...red eyes is what makes atum broke

dragon master of the tcg - 2012/08/17 23:46

ok difference between future and foolish is MST it gets hit as soon as its played worthless. as for atum hieratics dont need REDMD they can swarm the field in one turn (then Gaia exceed) and get to search out any dragon from deck thats way more broken than red. pulsar is a much bigger problem than you think easy to summon and scores you a free Lv5+ dark dragon when its killed and thats too easy to do
avenger (guest) - 2012/08/18 10:53

atum is weak...do u see any potential targets for that card besides red eyes or a hieratic monster? yep, red eyes is the prob, atum just creates a free dragon summon but red eyes is at 1...what else can u bring? dark horus? hahaha!
dragon master of the tcg - 2012/08/18 15:41

delta flyer, lightpulsar, darkflare, mirage, prime material, galaxy eyes, blue rose dragon, divine dragon apocolypse, masked dragon, armed dragon 5. do i need to go on?
Gouki (guest) - 2012/08/23 00:38

REDMD was never the problem

@avenger: REDMD did it job like it has always done. It was other dragons like Atum and Lightpulsar that found ways to abuse his once per turn eff.

All Konami had to do was Semi REDMD, out Atum to 1-2, limit Ecplise Wyvern and put LightPulsar to 1-2 in addition to banning Future Fusion.

Atum can bring out any dragon, not all dragon decks are the same.
Mudkipz (guest) - 2012/08/17 23:39

Tsukiyomi plant control tier 1 nuff said . . . and you hate ryko now just wait :D

Arvine (guest) - 2012/08/18 12:03

beware

with yomi back on field, morphing jar become more dangerous
Saul alvarez (guest) - 2012/08/18 05:34

I'm happy with this new bann list

Heroes ftw!!! (guest) - 2012/08/18 05:43

Heroes!!!!

HEROES!!!!!! #1 YYEEEAAAHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

pro1994 (guest) - 2012/08/18 05:51

fuck yeah!!

heroes for eva!!!!!!!
the king (guest) - 2012/08/18 05:59

I really believe they'll be tier one and lavals, six sam and a few other decks too
Spicer (guest) - 2012/08/18 07:09

Relax people what you should worry about are the up coming decks like atlanteans, magicals, and Madolche decks; they are the duture meta.

They really didn't do much to Dino Rabbit.

Zenmighty: Nice

Inzektors: Got raped. I feal that hornet at 2 would be fine, but I love it.

Chaos Dragons: They did ruin alot of dragon decks, but it was a really good dragon build and it never bothered me. Poor duelists lol but yeah 2 would have been fine. I want to see if it can still perform though.

Hero's are going to have fun; I feel they are never going get hit hard.

Dark worlds: are going to be topping alot.

I see six sams going in for the kill.

Agents have potential and so do blackwings; Maybe.

Gravekeeper's are going to be topping more as well. They have always held their own. Especially now since the format is going to be much slower.

Well thats it imo.

Spicer (guest) - 2012/08/18 07:10

oops future*
Tsuna - 2012/08/18 09:01

Hornet shouldnt exist

In fact, no card that either can dump stuff on the field for nothing or punish you for playing the game as intended should ever exist. Any card that does that already should be limited or banned outright.
Gouki (guest) - 2012/08/23 00:27

Tsuna

Without variety,Yugioh becomes stale and unappealing.

However, decks that special summon the entire hand need to have a tighter leash.
Nate Rivers (guest) - 2012/08/18 08:50

Ban List Means Konami Wants to Make More Money

Yu-Gi-Oh! becomes shittier with each new ban list coming out.

HalfDemonInuyasha - 2012/08/18 20:33

reply

Uh...then why would they ban/restrict a bunch of cards A LOT of people use, thus people want?

And it only becomes shittier to people who rely on the Decktypes that the lists happen to hit. And even more so to those who simply copy them and use them and don't actually come up with their own Decks to use because they end up having to wait for others to do all the work and perform in the next big tournaments so they can copy them again.
Ghostar - 2012/08/18 09:56

Worth Mentioning

I wonder how other decks will do now that the bigger beast of decks got hit, you guys remember them right? Infernity, Glad Beast, Frogarch. Stuff like that.

Also WTF reasoning at 2, and strangely right when Necro Gardna is at 3 Hm...

trolldeck (guest) - 2012/08/18 10:20

epic!! yet confused.

...so is pot of greed, graceful charity, change of heart and premature burial unbanned??? I'm confused on that. And for that matter, how about witch of the black Forrest? I do not use (new school cards) I use cards up to the god cards and nothing past that. Help anyone? I haven't played since 2003 so I'm rebuilding my old deck that I called otk burner. I seen that 15 of my otk burner cards are banned, so can anyone give me good news?

Alltec (guest) - 2012/08/18 11:57

lol.....either get with the times or quit dude those cards are OP and will never ever come back
Belgian Blye (guest) - 2012/08/18 15:27

The last legal god card hasn't even been released in TCG, so that means you either play all cards up to now and beyond, or you were refering to the old blue ILLEGAL god cards and you don't actually play this game, in which case your opinion on the banlist is fairly moot ...
miguel (guest) - 2012/08/25 18:00

confused??

in this list are only the CHANGES... so obviosly pot of greed, graceful charity, etc etc are STILL BANNED...
GX-Kai (guest) - 2012/08/18 19:39

"Slow" format?

Slow format? You noobs will complain about this format again once cards from ABYR, Cosmo Blazar, and DP: Kaito is out and creates the new age meta decks and I'm sure of it.
Have a nice day~

Spicer (guest) - 2012/08/18 20:35

Exactly

Laval decks are going to be trolling, Madolche, magicals and all that other sh**T!
Gouki (guest) - 2012/08/23 00:22

DP Kaito is trash with the exception of the Rank 4 XYZ
asdfghhhytres (guest) - 2012/08/19 01:02

Killed

Killed Chaos Dragons, Wind-ups and Inzektors. Rabbit is still alive...

desolate23 (guest) - 2012/08/19 02:40

Not really

You can still play all of them this list makes them less explosive and killed OTK as a whole with these decks and I'm aware Dino Rabbit is still big but now have to play more conservitavely. Zenmaigthy is hit to stop the loop and thats whay they didn't kill hunter. i think tour guide is on here because of dark worlds rabbit and inzectorz. You don't see wind-ups play tour guide often.
el rosa (guest) - 2012/08/19 01:31

Awesome

All right for Tsukuyomi - The Book Of Moonster!

desolate23 (guest) - 2012/08/19 02:35

not bad

This list is positively right I can assure you this list opens up a whole new perpective to new decks and old ones. For example Kalut and Earth are now at 2 we can kinda resurrect Blackwings and Agents. Tsukiyomi is good too only because not every deck can run this. Spore shouldn't have been banned in the first place although at one is usless since you can oly use it one time. Debris Dragons okay. Don't see why they banned Brio after it was just reprinted. Tour Guide is now even cheaper. Almost everyone runs 2 PODs anyway Future Fusion being banned is good. And I don't see why Ultimate Offering is at 1.

EAA - 2012/08/19 04:35

Brio banned?

If you re-print cards you expect to sell them. If you re-print brionac while it is forbidden, then that means No sales for you. Brionac was supposed to be banned in the former list but Trollnami wanted to sell it first.
Halcyon the Will (guest) - 2012/08/19 05:12

Ultimate Offering Ban

Konami banned Offering becuase of the insane loops Madolche could pull off with it, since there Xyz Monster Tiramasu is basically OP. Brio was banned for the Atlanteans and Heroes. Basically Konami tried its best to nerf every known loop so far, but I give it a month or so before someone finds a new one.
Dark Highlander (guest) - 2012/08/19 16:22

in my opinion

chaos dragon isn't dead, and remains on tier 1. chaos sorcerer was supposed to being used at 2 on chaos dragons, so they lost just one chaos sorcerer. The same thing for REDMD. future fusion is a otk card, but chaos dragon can pull off many otks without it, even with 1 REDMD (you doesn't need to summon 2 for winning). with a new perspective of playing, chaos dragon, if well played, can be better than before. blackwings just gained 1 kalut, is still the same exactly deck. same for agents. at maximun, they both gained a little boost, not more than that. why the fuck people are saying that just because dark world didn't get hit it's going to be meta? dark world does have grapha spam, but it doesn't get the guts for big plays. it's grapha over and over until your opponent activates bth. dark world it's weak as hell by itself, so limiting dragged, gates and in a lesser extent, dealings could completely kill the deck, just like it was killed by the banning of graceful charity a few years ago. dark world is still in second plan, just like decks like gravekeeper, that have some powerful combos and field control, but cannot start big plays, like tengu synchros, chaos t.g. agents, ddts, chaos dragons, inzektors and many other decks did before. ultimate offering is limited because of two decks: machina gadget and in a lesser extent, madolche. brionac is banned because konami didn't figured out how strong mermail is when announced it's reprint. cards that can discard infinite times per turn can do several combos in the deck, and that's why cards like tribe infecting virus and now brionac are banned: because they're water monsters that discard over and over triggering mermail's effects. d-draw without 3 malicious is crappy, that's why it's unlimited, and emergency teleport is a cool boost for some decks that soon will be revealed as meta. spore is cool, but cannot revive a entire deck just by itself. heroes wathever, they remain almost the same. inzektors cried hard with that banlist, and hieratic lost it's otk. rabbit is weakened.

note: what the hell is that kind of name for tour guide?
Gouki (guest) - 2012/08/23 00:15

@ Halcyon the Will

Ultimate Offering was limited not banned.
sarton123 (guest) - 2012/08/19 08:36

fu** this sh**!! (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

lets play cardfighter vanguard! :D

PD: just kidding, adapt, bi***es, adapt -w-

darkside 14 (guest) - 2012/08/19 10:29

stop donate to konami, nuff say

s7inG_R (guest) - 2012/08/19 16:28

weher is my BLS ban? :(

Gouki (guest) - 2012/08/23 00:13

It came off the Banlist

Whenever a monster comes the banlist, it is limited and stays off the banlist. Deal with it
neurotic drunk evil scientist (guest) - 2012/08/19 16:32

MUAHAHAHA

reasoning + prophecy = broken plays... how they will figure out that? who knows how powerfull that kind of deck can be... where are you scooby?

Threatcon117 (guest) - 2012/08/20 10:13

I would be also worried about sams only seeing brio getting hit. this list makes sams a bigger problem then before just due to those tier 1 decks getting hit badly. Sadly i would say with this list I still see these as the top decks. Sams, Heroes, Sabers(and I am being serious), BW, DW, and a with TCG getting NobleKnight Gwaywn I could see a Light warriors rearing thier ulgy head imo.

SlanderGod. (guest) - 2012/08/21 17:32

AWESOME List.

This is a REALLY good list. I'd rather see BLS, Reborn, Heavy and Dark Hole banned too, but that's just me being a anti-derp radicalist. With Rabbit and TGU at two, Dino Rabbit is still gonna be GOOD but not broken and annoying. Inzektors are gonna have a tough time with those four open slots. And Wind-Ups... LOL have fun looping me with one Zenmaighty. It's also great on Konami's part hitting Gustkraken. They're doing something I've never seen before, taking preemptive measures hitting potential problem cards. REDMD and Future Fusion banned almost brings a tear to my eye. Almost makes me want Royal Oppression back.

evadada (guest) - 2012/08/22 14:52

Tour Guide's OCG Name

Very cute :)

nick lamare (guest) - 2012/08/23 15:07

pissed

i run inzektors on dn and d heros in rl so ff being banned kinda ruins one stratgy

and both hornat and dragonfly being hit destroys any and all inzektor hopes and dreams

also since this is the ocg and not tcg i am hopeing they arent the same

Rewind (guest) - 2012/08/23 21:53

Lol fail. Check the Shriek TCG site for yugioh, exactly the fucking same like always. And thank god for those annoying ass inzektors being hit. And I'm not complaining because how I can't beat them, i've run them myself many times. But the result of any duel with them is the same, an annoying win or an annoying lose.
Joey (guest) - 2012/08/29 12:28

After playing this list for about a week on dn, I feel that the changes they made regarding debris dragon, spore, and earth may not have been such good ideas after all, because now everyone seems to be using at least one of them, and they still seem to be too broken(turns out spore is very usable without glow-up bulb). I also feel that rescue rabbit and especially hero beat should have been hit much harder. Putting those aside though, this is a pretty cool list, they hit most of the big meta decks, and the cards that they eased up on seem pretty reasonable for the most part.

The Real Anon (guest) - 2012/09/01 10:45

This list is good, but yugioh will just continue to screw the players over. CFV is where I'm at now. ^_^
Joey (guest) - 2012/09/03 08:45

I just had a thought

Unless I'm just not understanding the loop coorectly, wouldn't it make more sense to limit the sacred xyz monster rather than gustkraken? After all, you would just be re-using the same one, so with kraken at 1 the loop is still usable(I've never actually seen the loop used, so sorry if I missed something obvious).

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